>> yeah. >> and it's very positive driven, very like get up and be glass half-full, not glass half-empty. people say, it's easier for you, mate. you're selling tens of millions of books, making hundreds of millions of dollars, married to this beautiful woman, life's pretty damn good for joel osteen. what about if i've lost my job, my house, my car, i can't feed my kids, as tens of millions of americans right now are going through that? what do you say about that? how do you convince them to take your lead? >> i think that's hope -- the big part of the ministry is that you know, we face difficulties, too, but our hearts go out to people, americans are hurting, people all over the world. it's so important, if you get up in the morning and think life's lousy, there's nothing good in my future, i don't want to go to work, i don't feel well, you're going to draw in more negativity, you're going to get bitter on life and sink down into depression and miss your purpose. it's not easy when things are coming against you. you've got to get up and find something to be grateful for.